Les White and Hugh Mose both recently retired from transit management after lengthy stints at Santa Cruz (Calif.) Metro and Centre Area Transportation Authority (State College, Pa.), respectively. Prior to that, the list of small cities in which they led transit agencies covers Kalamazoo, Mich., Vancouver, Wash., Fort Wayne, Ind., Iowa City, Iowa, Fresno, Calif., and Olympia, Wash. Here, Les and Hugh talk about what they learned along the way, and how each system and community was unique. They highlight what real transit leadership looks like, how things have changed and why they loved leading small city transit operations.
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